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Riding the Fantasy Football Waves: From Hopefuls to Game-Changers

August 29, 2023 Jesse
Riding the Fantasy Football Waves: From Hopefuls to Game-Changers
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Riding the Fantasy Football Waves: From Hopefuls to Game-Changers
Aug 29, 2023
Jesse

In a riveting discussion with our esteemed guest and reigning champ, RT, we’re taking you straight into the heart of fantasy football, scrutinizing potential booms and busts for the forthcoming season. How might Dalvin Cook's arrival affect the performances of receivers like Garrett Wilson? Could Jimmy Garoppolo's arm strength or lack thereof impact Vonte Adams' deep catches? And does Josh Jacobs' hefty new deal signal a shift in the Raiders' game plan? You might be surprised by the answers.

We also pull apart the hype surrounding Calvin Ridley and Amari Cooper, and explore why Deontay Johnson's target count is crucial to note. We look past the buzz and into the very core of what makes players like George Pickens, Alan Robinson, and Brian Robinson tick. We debate the Atlanta quarterback situation and the Washington Football Team's quest for a name. From questioning the noise around Drake London to sizing up the potential of Mark Brown and Kyla Murray, we leave no stone unturned. So, get your playbooks ready, this is fantasy football analysis like you've never heard before!

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In a riveting discussion with our esteemed guest and reigning champ, RT, we’re taking you straight into the heart of fantasy football, scrutinizing potential booms and busts for the forthcoming season. How might Dalvin Cook's arrival affect the performances of receivers like Garrett Wilson? Could Jimmy Garoppolo's arm strength or lack thereof impact Vonte Adams' deep catches? And does Josh Jacobs' hefty new deal signal a shift in the Raiders' game plan? You might be surprised by the answers.

We also pull apart the hype surrounding Calvin Ridley and Amari Cooper, and explore why Deontay Johnson's target count is crucial to note. We look past the buzz and into the very core of what makes players like George Pickens, Alan Robinson, and Brian Robinson tick. We debate the Atlanta quarterback situation and the Washington Football Team's quest for a name. From questioning the noise around Drake London to sizing up the potential of Mark Brown and Kyla Murray, we leave no stone unturned. So, get your playbooks ready, this is fantasy football analysis like you've never heard before!

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Speaker 1:

All right, everybody, welcome back to the Vegas guys locker room got a fantasy football edition with a special guest. Today we got RT in the house. What's going on? Buddy Champions here, the champion. Yeah the defending champ. Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah. You better bring that belt to the, to the draft. You know this right.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna bring it tonight, but I figure I wait till everyone's together and we, I show everyone there you go, there you go.

Speaker 1:

All right, well, got a special show for you guys. He's joined us and we're gonna talk receivers today. Nothing league specific, we're gonna just gonna talk to the receivers in general. We'll go through this. We're gonna pick three guys that we believe are gonna be bust and we're gonna pick three guys we think we're gonna go boom. Now, this is based on where they're going as far as draft position. If they're going high and we feel like they're gonna fall, these guys are gonna be labeled as our bust. The boom picks are ab are going to go higher than their draft position are right now. So, rt, won't you start us off, man. Who's your, who's your first bust?

Speaker 2:

my first bust. Yeah, I got to go with the Garrett Wilson. I've seen him go as high as the second round in some drafts and I just don't see him Putting up numbers just because he has Aaron Rodgers there. Rodgers is more of a yeah, he had the valentine Adams over there in Green Bay, but I just think he's gonna rely more on combination of breeze hall and Dalvin Cook going down the line and breeze can catch as well. But with Garrett Wilson I just I just don't see him putting up a projected numbers. They have them over 85 receptions with 1200 yards and I just don't see it happening.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean I know there's been a skepticism on that one, because these guys they want to play defense. I think they're gonna try to control the ball a little bit more. I think they're gonna. I think they're gonna be a slower pace style. That I don't think most people are gonna realize, because I think they're just gonna want to hold on to that lead. So but it's gonna be curious to see what happens this coming season, because everybody thinks that Garrett Wilson, of course, is gonna be the next the Vonday Adams for for Aaron Rodgers, I Mean it could go the other way, I mean it could go the way. I mean I could see him getting the majority of the targets as far as the target share. But I, like he said, I think they're gonna. With the signing of Dalvin Cook, I think this team wants to run the ball a little bit more, control the clock and play D.

Speaker 2:

I think that's the way they want to win games.

Speaker 1:

Especially in that division, playing against teams like Miami and Buffalo who love to air it out. You know already Josh Allen's gonna throw the ball this fond eggs all the time. You already know what Miami's got with it, those track stars they have down there. Of course you know with knowing, when knowing was always gonna be doing what they're trying to figure their stuff out.

Speaker 2:

So, but defensively.

Speaker 1:

I think that's where the Jets are gonna play their strength. So, yeah, man, it's not a bad pick, not a bad pick. I. I like Wilson. I don't like him in his current draft position. I Think he should be more of a third round guy, I think. I think that everybody's kind of reaching for him a little early, which is understandable, but you know, hey, that's his pick to go bust.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so all right, my first one that I've got on my list is the Vonday Adams. He's got Jimmy Garoppolo there. Me and George kind of hit it on the last show where we talked about are they gonna go? That old school New England style offense at McDaniels was was good. You know, running Garoppolo was great. That was why, kind of he built his whole thing up. If that's that's the case, that does not play into the Vonte Adam strengths. That's more of a hunter-run fro kind of ordeal there that he's got, and I think that's why they went and got the Myers yes, because that's his specialty that short. I think it's gonna hurt because Garoppolo is not throwing the ball 40 yards on the field. That's just not his strong suit and I think that's what's gonna hurt the mind. Now the Monta Adams for the lab. I believe if you can't get the last six years, he is the highest Fantasy scoring receiver in the league. I think that tapers off. I think that falls out. I don't think he's a top-ten receiver this year, wow.

Speaker 2:

I know that hurt you hard, because I know you're a.

Speaker 1:

Raider fan I, but I just I don't see it. I don't know what are your thoughts on that one.

Speaker 2:

I Agree with you in regards to Jimmy not throwing the ball down deep. He don't have the arm strength for that. But the Vonte doesn't always have to go deep either. He's a great route runner, he can break off and I Guess I see Hunter Renfro take Renfro taking more in the slot Mm-hmm due to that. So we're probably get a lot more receptions this year, but I still think the Vonte Adams still gonna be a top-ten wide receiver.

Speaker 1:

I think you're gonna have to get the touch-hounds out of him. Man, I think that's where you're gonna have to get the touch-hounds, but I Don't know, with Josh Jacobs, now sign that dude deal. I think they're gonna run the heck out of that ball when you get down in that red zone and let him do work.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, josh, jacob, and that new oh at 12 million dollar deal. Yeah, yeah, up to 12 million. I didn't get the specifics of it yet.

Speaker 1:

It's worth up to 12 me. I'm sure it's a lot of incentive base as far as percentage of carries and stuff like that, so they're gonna have to utilize them because they're paying the man yeah not like a new England with Zeke's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, one million dollar contract. Yeah, they're not gonna use them much at all, I believe, but yeah, that's a good take.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that's my first, that's that's my first bus. So, all right, give me your second one way. I this one, this one. You're hitting me with this one, I know, so go ahead. What's yours?

Speaker 2:

So I had to come up with D Bo. D Bo Samuel he was. He was utilized heavily as a what they call that, a wing receiver. Yeah, yeah, we're back, whatever, yeah, so, um, we're, christian McCraffery, now on that team for the from the get beginning of the year. I think is gonna take a lot of, a lot of looks away from D Bo. Mm-hmm, in regards to receiving as well, because CMC is a catching back and Purdy he Didn't it look too good in the preseason. If anything, I went with D Bo just being low because CMC is there to take the production away from him. Yeah, so I think that's gonna cause him to bust this year. I also have a boom with Brandon IU, I think are you there, you go.

Speaker 2:

So all right, I think he's gonna be the leading receiver for the Niners this year.

Speaker 1:

Well, he was last year and a lot of people think that that was a fluke. I'm kind of with you on this one, because a lot of Debo Samuel's you know, spark was the fact that he played that wing back position where he was getting the ball out of the backfield a lot. They were finding ways to get him the ball. I think when the calf regatta there it completely changed the way that offense was gonna be run. So you're not gonna utilize that whole running skill of Debo anymore. He's gonna. He's gonna have to catch passes like a traditional receiver and I you know that. That goes to the part where they try to trade lands. Yes, yeah, everybody goes. Oh, they would have kept them. I've heard the marks of. They should have kept him because they've had the injuries and everything going down. I Just don't think. I think they kept the three guys that can run that offense the way it's set up now. You can't run that offense if you have trade lands as your quarterback. You got to entirely change the game because that's not his skill set. I Think that's.

Speaker 1:

I think you're right on this one. I think Debo is actually the. This should be the lower ranked receiver in this Niners offense. I think IU is gonna be be the guy. I think kiddle. I think kiddle could surprise some people because party does like to throw the kiddle in the red zone. Big body, yeah, big body. Yep, he's gonna play simple football. He's not gonna, he's not gonna force it to anybody. That was proven last year. It's gonna be entry. But I think you're right. I think the boom is gonna be IU again.

Speaker 2:

I think the bust is gonna be Debo in that offense Well, in fantasy too, I think IU has a much better value. Oh yeah, in comparison, to Debo.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just think in the pretty of the catches I think I think they'll be similar in catches, but I think you're gonna look at the down the field yards are gonna be IU, so the bigger plays. If you're looking for the bigger upside, it's definitely gonna be IU. Debo's you're gonna have to throw those little slants. Of Debo and Listen. He's pretty proven that he can't stay healthy when taking those big hits. It's going over middle.

Speaker 2:

You're gonna take them legs. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I mean, I agree with you on that, when I it stinks because Debo man, they paid him all that money and Usually when you pay that money, you want to, you want to see the guy produce, I just don't think that one's gonna work out. I remember, I remember sign that I just, if you were gonna utilize them like they did two years ago, then absolutely he was worth everybody. But if you're not, yeah, offense, change, yeah the offense. Everything changed the way they were building that team. Everything kind of changed, especially last year when they went out and got Chris McCaffrey. Change the whole narrative. All right, man, go ahead, give me your last, give me your last bus. What do you got for your last bus?

Speaker 2:

Calvin Ridley, we haven't seen him, yeah in years. And now this guy comes up and he's, he's getting picked. You know, it's still mid rounds, like fourth, fifth round, but I just don't see him.

Speaker 1:

Hype man, the hype around Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 2:

I think it's because of Trevor Lawrence. He has an arm and Ridley's a fast, wide receiver, but we haven't seen him.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, what is he? He's 28 and he's still on a 28 29 and he's still on his rookie deal, because he's missed so many, so many years. I mean he's he's literally he's still on his first contract. I mean that's insane to be almost 30.

Speaker 2:

Still working on your rookie contract.

Speaker 1:

I just I worry about this guy Mentally. Yes, because he's had that, that's his, that's his M, only he's not mentally strong. I mean, I agree with you, I don't see Calvin, really the hype around Calvin Ridley I know George is is looked at him in camp. He said he looks great. Everybody talks about how much they love him. What else they gonna say? They're not gonna say they hate the guy and they went on traded for him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I Just don't think mentally he's gonna be there and to be missing that I mean. Look at the show on Watson last year.

Speaker 2:

He missed what two years of football he looked awful, yes, coming back, so I'm glad I didn't pick him up, I know.

Speaker 1:

I know a lot of people did, and what you got was not what you were thinking. I mean, that is not the Houston Texans Version of the Shawn Watson, that was something else, but I don't know, maybe it's just a curse, the Browns uniform.

Speaker 2:

But then that leads me into my boom before a Mari Cooper. They currently have him as a number 18 wide receiver in fantasy ice and their floor for him is a Number 28 wide receiver with a top being number 11. I think. I know we just talked about the Shawn, but the Shawn likes to fling it. He'll throw it down the field. He did it with Hopkins. They had a bad team and they still somehow made the playoffs, you know, and um, the defense is still. They still got Miles Garrett there. I think their defense is gonna be good enough to keep them in the games and it just depends on the Sean throwing it down the field to Amari Cooper, cause Cooper is still fast. He still, I mean, he hasn't dropped him any balls as he did in Oakland. But I think this is when Amari goes back to his Dallas days this year.

Speaker 1:

I really You're a little more explosive. Yeah, he's got I think he he looked good with Jacoby Bressette last year and then, of course, then you got that, whatever version of the Sean that was, and it all went away. But I mean, then they did get Elijah Moore this year. They went out and got him, so they do have another weapon there. You don't have to. What was it number two last year, Donovan People Jones last year.

Speaker 2:

Yes, man, that'll be nice they had. They got in Joku still, which I really like. That's solid, solid tight end. But I think Amari Cooper, I think he's gonna crack top 10. Oh, absolutely, 90 plus receptions and I think he's gonna go for 1200 yards.

Speaker 1:

I really think that I know a lot of people are high on it. George is a big believer in Amari Cooper, this year as well. Who's your other, who's your other? Boom, what the hell is he got going?

Speaker 2:

This is for Lee, I guess Deontay Johnson. This guy had 147 targets last year with only 86 receptions, and how many touchdowns did he have?

Speaker 1:

One, no, he didn't hit. Oh, not zero, zero, it was completely zero.

Speaker 2:

He didn't even have one touchdown last year, wow, all right. So he had a 27% target share. I think Deontay Johnson is gonna be the biggest boom this year. In regards to where he's drafted, he's going late, seventh, eighth round and I just think. Well, he's dropped to ninth round in some leagues as well, but I think Deontay Johnson has a big year coming for him.

Speaker 1:

I think so. I think he has a decent. I've looked at a watch pick at some preseason games. He looks more confident in running that offense. Last year you could tell he was a little wide-eyed rookie, oh, but he looks solid this year. I think Deontay Johnson and George Pickens, I think, have go way above where they're being drafted right now. I think people are undervaluing him right now but I know Pickens has moved up everybody's ladder, especially with his deep threat ability, his catch rate. I guess I mean the guy's a beast going to get the ball. But yeah, I really like that. I really like that pick. That's a good pick, I mean, especially with that 140. He's gotta find the end zone right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's it.

Speaker 1:

He can't go two years with zero touchdowns, oh man that happens.

Speaker 2:

Wow, I don't think anybody's gonna pick him up next year.

Speaker 1:

That's all right. He's still better than you know. He'll still have a job. You know Alan Robinson's still on the league I was talking about that man's on the all, like I said, the last show. He's on the all NFL cardio team. That man just goes out there, runs 98 rounds and gets thrown the ball once or twice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, if only I was a little bit taller.

Speaker 1:

But all right. So what I got for I got. Of course I had my two, my Devontay Adams pick for a bust. My other bust, deandre Hopkins, in Tennessee, I think they most mostly he's got him going, you know, 25, 20 to 25, some have him a little higher. The last time they produced a top 20 wide receiver, I mean you couldn't do it with AJ Brown. What makes you think you're gonna do it on an older version of DeAndre Hopkins?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that offense is built around Derek Henry and always will be around Derek Henry. Yeah, that's a running offense and they got no quarterback.

Speaker 1:

Like Ryan Tannehill. He's kind of done. I think his better days are behind him. And then you got Willis and Will Levis.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, will Levis, that's what they picked up this year. Right, got a set in the draft room, oh yeah he was an early second round guy.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, it's look bad. He couldn't even beat up Malik Willis, who looked like garbage last year.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, he was awful last year, so yeah, I'm not really liking the DeAndre Hopkins choice here.

Speaker 2:

How far was he being drafted?

Speaker 1:

up. He's going in the mid to early 20s is kind of where people are going. Yes, he's gonna be the number one guy. He's gonna probably have 30% target share. But are they gonna? How quality? Are they gonna be Right, right, so, and then, of course, the other one, this guy's going 20th. I like him, but I don't like him where he's going. So I think he's gonna be a bust, just simply on where he's going. Adp and it's DJ Moore. Oh, he got Justin Fields. Yeah, justin Fields, he runs, he can't throw. No, he's so inaccurate it's so bad to watch. I remember watching the highlight reels of how open Darnell Mooney was last year and he couldn't get him the ball.

Speaker 2:

They wouldn't have to pick up DJ Moore if they had, if he hit Darnell Mooney last year, yeah, I mean, I just don't know.

Speaker 1:

I think you're gonna have to manifest short passes Me and George talked about this, I think, a couple episodes ago. You're gonna have to run short routes with DJ Moore. You're gonna have to. He's gonna have to produce a run after the catch. Yeah, that's what happened in their second preseason game, right yeah well, yeah, that one yard pass that went for 60 something yards. I mean it literally like the air yardage. I think it was like two or three yards for both touchdown passes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah they were both screenplays and I think that's where you're gonna have to go with it. I just don't see that working throughout the entire year. I can see it working here and there against bad defenses. Yes, I just don't see that.

Speaker 2:

Maybe they're like hey, I got Pocky King's one hand and I'm going all in and everybody's calling, and then I got two, four offsuit and they're gonna play the screen.

Speaker 1:

But then here I just throw it deep and hopefully it hits him. I don't think it'll hit something that ain't hitting the receiver, I'll tell you that. But a couple of my boom ones that I really liked. I really like I said I thought we just talked about it I like George Pickens. I think he's going, he's going.

Speaker 1:

I think his wide receiver rank right now is high 30s. That's where he's kind of going. He's going really late in drafts. He's starting to move up a little bit. I think he's going to have a heck of a year just with the picket improving. He looks more confident. We talked about that. I think he knows that offense. They got two good running backs there that are going to run the ball. You're going to take your shots. If he can run that play action, I think he's going to be fine with George Pickens. I think George Pickens is going to be monster in the touchdown. I think he's going to be the guy's a massive man. Had he not been hurt he would have gone sooner where he was drafted the kid's good. I think he's going to be a top 20 receiver and he's going almost at 40. So I think that's a big move up there. Ana, what do you think?

Speaker 2:

I like that Pickens too, but I don't think he's going to outperform Deontay Johnson because they're similar.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah yeah, I just think I think you're going to get the volume to Deontay Johnson. I think the bigger the boom value if you're getting, especially if you are in a league that has bonuses. I think that's where you're going to aim, especially where he's going at in drafts. I just think that he could be a top 20 receiver easily with the touchdown.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, and he's going to be utilized in that red zone.

Speaker 1:

I mean dude's a beast, the dude's a beast of a man, the other one? I had Pagan for a boomer.

Speaker 2:

Zay Flowers, zay Flowers, baltimore Ravens yeah, I think that rookie.

Speaker 1:

They look like they finally have a receiver. Everybody thinks Rashad Bateman, rashad Bateman no. I mean they only got the OBJ. I mean way past his prime.

Speaker 2:

He's going to get hurt as soon as he catches the ball again.

Speaker 1:

He hasn't been the same in like three years. It's been brutal. I mean, when Dallas, it was hurting for a receiver and they were like, yeah, we're past. That should have told you everything. That should have told you ever. They, jerry Jones, didn't want to sign a big name. Come on, that man wants to sign every big name. I did a man's the Yankees and he was like now we're good, michael Gallup's gonna get through this, see so. But I think Zae flowers gonna be huge. That offense, of course, new offense coordinated there. They're gonna throw the ball a lot more. I think you have to.

Speaker 1:

With the injury concerns around Lamar Jackson from all the running and he's an actually accurate quarterback. He's his. He can hit those passes. I mean, he's actually very accurate and he can, you know he can move around the pocket. I think you can. You'll see a lot less running out of them. I think he'll run when he has to, but I don't think he's there. I think you'll see less design runs. Let me put it that way I think you'll see less design runs with all the weapons they have there, because if the running backs can stay healthy, they still have two good young running backs, gus Edwards and JK Dobbins, that can run the ball. You don't need to be running your, your MVP caliber quarterback.

Speaker 2:

You shouldn't be running MVP caliber quarterback. They should have went after Trying to trade for Jonathan Taylor because JK Dobbins yeah, you know, Gus Edwards they both coming off injuries Again. Second year in a row they're coming off injuries and the Baltimore Ravens backfield ever since Ray Rice have the rice incident hasn't been yeah that hasn't yeah, it hasn't been a running back.

Speaker 1:

Was it stable? Yeah, it's not stable. Exactly it has not been stable. The other one I was really looking at as far as booming, and I had to kind of pivot Because I did, like Jackson, smith and Jacob, but now we got hurt. So now I had to kind of pivot from that. I am actually gonna go with Jahan Dotson, mmm in Washington. I think Sam Howells look good in the preseason. Now how will that translate? But it is Eric B Enemies offense. They're gonna, they're gonna be creative. I think Jahan Dotson you saw it last year he's explosive. He goes up heat, he's a great route runner. He can go up and get the 50-50 balls. I Really like I think he's gonna be a massive player. I know I picked him up last year. He was kind of a sleeper pick for me last year. Then he got hurt, yes, but if he can stay healthy this year, I think he has a huge year. I know what do you? What are your thoughts on that Washington offense?

Speaker 2:

Personally, I love Jahan Dotson. I know our league draft, our Redraft League, isn't happening until this Tuesday, but I picked up Jahan Dotson in every single league that I have. Oh, no kidding.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you got a huge stake in that, John Dotson. I do, I do, I. I really like his connection towards the later half of the year is when he connected with Sam Howe, or that oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because yeah, they started Sam Howe a couple games towards the end there and with Dotson kind of came and then even even this preseason.

Speaker 2:

they they're seeing eye-to-eye more than you know, scary Terry.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I mean with Terry being hurt. Now I mean I thought Terry McClure was gonna have a decent year because I thought they were gonna throw the ball a lot more with Eric B Enemies. But with McClure and being hurt, if he can bounce back, yeah he's still be a solid year. But I think now the more time, the more reps going with. Jahan Dotson just plays more into John.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, and they still have. They got Brian Robinson coming back as well this year, Mm-hmm, and I think that that offense nobody gets shot or nothing else happens, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's. That's the fun thing you see, cuz like Brian Robinson last year I don't think you really saw the full Brian. Robinson because you know, listen, the man was shot in the leg. You can see a different Brian Robinson this year. Everybody thinks, oh, he just can't break through the line I don't maybe see a more explosive Brian Robinson year or two just Having a nice camp, injury-free, getting getting fully healed? I could see Brian Robinson having a bit having a big year with it, especially the touchdowns.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and my biggest. Well, what I've come across is Washington, people wanting Washington to have their name back. Mm-hmm, you know, and I'm, I'm really for it, I'm all for it, I'm all for it. You know, make Washington great again. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Dude, I just yeah with the whole the name changing thing. It's, it's getting ridiculous. It's getting ridiculous, the whole name changing thing. I mean I See, I see both sides of it. It just it was so good for so long, so good for so long, so, but I mean never means to be seen, but I mean I Think Sam L is gonna be, I think Sam L is gonna be good. I think that received oh, yeah, yeah, they got.

Speaker 2:

They got a nice pick up with Sam how I take them over Tennessee's quarterback core. I don't even know who else is out there that this says that's football, not as you know for fantasy or anything, but I like. I like Sam how he look at Desmond Ritter in Atlanta.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

We haven't really brought up anybody in Atlanta. No, I don't think.

Speaker 1:

Scared to pick anybody in Atlanta man yeah just don't besides Bajon Robinson.

Speaker 2:

That's the only one that people are taking, and and they're going to call Piscar. Oh, he's gonna do better, bro, you have Mario the last year, now you got Desmond Ritter. It's, it's the same style quarterback.

Speaker 1:

It's the same style of quarterback. Desmond Ritter is the same thing as Marcus Mario.

Speaker 2:

I don't think anybody realizes that yet, yeah, so that's why I think they're taking Bajon Robinson so high, because he's great.

Speaker 1:

I mean, he's a great player. He's a great player. I think he's gonna they're gonna run the ball. You already know that. You know another. Another bus candidate was Drake London, because I know people are taking him. He's going into kind of the mid 20s right there. As far as wide receiver rankings, I think it's the same as last year to be yeah I think he's just made out to bust this year because of his quarterback play.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the quarterback position for Atlanta is is scary. Yes, Ritter was. I mean he wasn't a sought, a highly sought after guy. I don't think a whole lot of people saw huge potential in in Ritter. No, he played it with Cincinnati, right.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Cincinnati. I just, I don't know, I don't see it.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you know, the Atlanta Falcons offense scares me, besides the running backs and then like I can't bust Mark, he's a brown because nobody really drafted him, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean he could. He could have a late spurt in the late year of when Kyla Murray comes back. Cuz, listen, I mean Kyla Murray, listen for everything that goes on. And the Arizona Cardinals do suck, but Kyla Murray can ball, kyla Murray can bar, and now how healthy is he gonna be coming back? And he still moved the way he did. I mean he's like a human joystick out there to change directions. I'd, you know, snap of a finger. He, you know fantasy wise. He was going top five here the last few years.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean he's going undrafted in a lot of leagues. I know was that I mean, unless you're in a Two quarterback league or a super flex, you're not really picking up the Murray experiment, no. So yeah, that one could be that that's gonna be Interesting to see. But yeah, because Colt McCoy's his quarterback, yeah it's cool, but I think he's hurting. I thought.

Speaker 2:

And then they picked up who they traded for they got David Blough when they got they traded from the Browns the Browns quarterback. They just traded for him. But yeah, that's I mean that's a scary situation.

Speaker 1:

That's a scary, I don't mean I think. I think you can take a late-round flyer on Marquis Brown Planning on that second half of the season to be you know, to be solid James Connor, of course you're gonna. You're gonna go with James Connor because if he does stay healthy, you know he's gonna get a lot of the rock, especially in the passing game, especially with the quarterbacks are gonna be taking the place of Kyle Murray for the time being. You know they're gonna check down.

Speaker 2:

If anything, marquis Brown is a good boom candidate for where he's being. Yeah, I know right for yeah, he's actually.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's not bad. You just have to be patient with him. Yes, and are you willing to hold on to him? That's gonna be the biggest thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and in our.

Speaker 1:

I know, in our dynasty league I don't think anybody pick him up.

Speaker 2:

I got, I got to take a look because I know in our redraft league we only have four bench spots. So yeah, baby.

Speaker 1:

We forced that movement? We, I don't. I think somebody did draft them, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2:

I think somebody didn't pick him up. He's their number one in Arizona.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean he's gonna be the number one. I mean there's really not much there, I think. I think the next biggest one and I think everybody's gonna be struck that is Michael Wilson. He's gonna be the number two guy there in Arizona. He's really the good young rookie out of Stanford. They say he's really picked up the offense. I know I was, I was gonna pick him up in our dynasty league and then you, nick, jumped on that when he, when everybody screwed up the draft and didn't realize it needed to draft the rookies to put, to put down in there the taxi squad.

Speaker 2:

I freaking audited at the last four picks and I look back. I said I got no one doing a taxi.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there was a few teams. I was like, alright, I knew everybody's gonna mess this up, because I think the night before me and Georgia did a mock draft you know, and just just goofing around with it, and he wasn't drafting any rookies.

Speaker 1:

And I went you know you're gonna have to draft the rookies. And he went oh, I'm like that's when I'm downed. I'm like nobody's gonna realize this, nobody's gonna realize that they're gonna have to drop somebody. So that was why we went that one day of alright, fix your rosters, no charges on on wave improvements right now. But you did make the best move of the offseason Dude the $75 Kirk Cousin bid. Baby, yeah, sweet that pop.

Speaker 2:

And then now I saw that our moves are $5 minimum because Kevin got a dollar. Yeah, he got the last one he got the just one dollar Now. I was like wait a minute.

Speaker 1:

No, we can't be having this. Yeah, because you know, kevin, that guy likes to make moves. Oh, yeah, he's gonna make too many moves. I'm like we got it you know, we gotta, we gotta bump that up a little bit.

Speaker 2:

That was a good move. And everybody just sitting on the wave war. Now nobody's made any moves. Yeah, nobody's made any moves.

Speaker 1:

I think everybody's a little nervous. I mean, this is the first year we're playing the dynasty, so it's a little different. I mean, anybody who hasn't got into it I'll tell you it's a lot of fun, it's interesting, it's a little different mindset because you know this is gonna be your team going forward. There's not a whole oh man, I gotta draft that guy next year. You gotta make trades Now you gotta make trades, you know. So now you got rookie picks and so you, now you gotta pay attention to the guys in college. It just makes a lot more fun. I think there's a lot more going on, rather than just, all right, I can prep a couple weeks before the draft and just go. This is dynasty is an all year round thing.

Speaker 2:

That's how I looked at it, and I pay seventy five dollars for Kirk Cousins, all right.

Speaker 1:

I know Q was really happy about that. She was like what the fuck? So? But anyways, man. So what else have you been joined about? I know you started your own league over there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I did start my own league and we're having a little trouble filling it. At first it's pretty big it's five hundred dollar league with five low scores paying up a ten dollar transactions. So if you're dropping anyone, just one person, that's ten dollars. You add one, that's ten dollars. But if you do it in one move, then that's ten dollars. So okay, so it's just it's per move.

Speaker 2:

Yes per move. So I'm trying to get people away from just adding and dropping people for the. You know, for the heck of it, yeah, and everybody is side betting in that league as well, man.

Speaker 1:

You got some stuff being thrown around that thing.

Speaker 2:

So I do got a. I already do have a waiting list for next year. I got four people waiting to join that league.

Speaker 1:

Just expanded to a 12 team league.

Speaker 2:

I didn't want to expand to 12. I think 10 is going to be good for the moves. Wait with that.

Speaker 1:

What's all that going on? Man come on Put that money together.

Speaker 2:

The next year I got I'm going to make it a ten dollar loss. So 17 week season, whoever yeah, they play the whole 17 weeks. Set your lineup for 17 weeks, not because you're out of it or whatever, but if you're going to lose, that's a hundred seventy dollars you lose every week and that goes to the main pot as well. So I'm trying to just make it fat, trying to make that big old pot brother. And that league is weird. That was a weird draft we just drafted last week and Josh Allen winning round two.

Speaker 1:

We'll see in a 10 team league. This is where this is where kind of my advice goes. If you're drafting in a 10 team league, you know you're going to get some quality players because it's only 10 teams. You might as well go get the quarterback you want early if you want to jump on one of those high rated ones, because there's going to be enough talent, especially receiver wise, you're going to have enough of that going forward that, yeah, you can jump on it in the second and third round. Jump on a quarterback early. That's my advice. On a 10 team league, 12 team yeah, you might want to wait. You don't want to jump on it too early because it will get scarce in that in that draft with that many teams going.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

I got a 12 team league going draft going the week after this one for our redraft palace one, but yeah, that one's going to be interesting. So but we're enjoying fantasy football. It's almost football season, so all you guys out there please follow us on any platform you listen to podcast. Leave us a review like listen. We're on X, I guess is what called. Now it's not Twitter anymore.

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Speaker 2:

Man, appreciate you having on the show, of course, of course, and come by on Tuesday, guys.

Speaker 1:

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