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Super Bowl Stunner: Unraveling 49ers What-Ifs, Quarterback Dynamics, and Fantasy Football Revelations

February 16, 2024 Jesse
Super Bowl Stunner: Unraveling 49ers What-Ifs, Quarterback Dynamics, and Fantasy Football Revelations
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Super Bowl Stunner: Unraveling 49ers What-Ifs, Quarterback Dynamics, and Fantasy Football Revelations
Feb 16, 2024
Jesse

Could the 49ers have rewritten Super Bowl history if not for those confounding overtime rules and strategic missteps? Unpack the drama with us as we dissect the pivotal plays and decisions that left fans and experts alike in a state of disbelief. From the muffed punt that shifted the tides to the 49ers' first-half performance laced with squandered chances, we leave no stone unturned. I'll even let you in on my personal post-game coping strategy of steering clear of sports media to dodge the relentless post-mortem of the game's climax.

Nikki B jumps in, and we're candidly dissecting quarterback showdowns, comparing Purdy's resilience to Jimmy G's post-injury dip, while not shying away from Jimmy's extracurricular missteps and their impact on his professional journey. The chess match doesn't end there; join our robust debate on the NFL's evolving defense economics, weighing cornerbacks against pass rushers. We scrutinize the Chiefs' handling of their defensive aces and argue whether Sneed's Super Bowl performance should cloud an entire season of excellence.

Wrapping things up, we shift focus to the longer game, spotlighting Lamar Jackson's upward trajectory and the 49ers' perilous path ahead given their salary cap puzzle. We probe into the intricacies of team dynamics under the crunch of injury setbacks and high-stakes pressure. And because we all need a lighter note, we revel in the unpredictability of fantasy football drafting, celebrating the rush of snagging a hidden gem or the groan-worthy slump of an expected star. So, gear up for a whirlwind of insights and strategies that might just revolutionize your approach to the next fantasy football season.

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Could the 49ers have rewritten Super Bowl history if not for those confounding overtime rules and strategic missteps? Unpack the drama with us as we dissect the pivotal plays and decisions that left fans and experts alike in a state of disbelief. From the muffed punt that shifted the tides to the 49ers' first-half performance laced with squandered chances, we leave no stone unturned. I'll even let you in on my personal post-game coping strategy of steering clear of sports media to dodge the relentless post-mortem of the game's climax.

Nikki B jumps in, and we're candidly dissecting quarterback showdowns, comparing Purdy's resilience to Jimmy G's post-injury dip, while not shying away from Jimmy's extracurricular missteps and their impact on his professional journey. The chess match doesn't end there; join our robust debate on the NFL's evolving defense economics, weighing cornerbacks against pass rushers. We scrutinize the Chiefs' handling of their defensive aces and argue whether Sneed's Super Bowl performance should cloud an entire season of excellence.

Wrapping things up, we shift focus to the longer game, spotlighting Lamar Jackson's upward trajectory and the 49ers' perilous path ahead given their salary cap puzzle. We probe into the intricacies of team dynamics under the crunch of injury setbacks and high-stakes pressure. And because we all need a lighter note, we revel in the unpredictability of fantasy football drafting, celebrating the rush of snagging a hidden gem or the groan-worthy slump of an expected star. So, gear up for a whirlwind of insights and strategies that might just revolutionize your approach to the next fantasy football season.

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Speaker 1:

All right, everybody, welcome back to the Vegas guys locker room. I am once again joined by my friend Nikki B is in the house. What's going on, brother?

Speaker 2:

How much man. Another wonderful day here in Las Vegas the weather's finally good and just enjoying life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah. Super Bowl week is a wrap. We've got lots to talk about. I know I'm personally devastated Anybody who knows who I'm a big Niders fan, so Nikki B did listen to me rant during that whole game. Bitch it a moment.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I was five and one on predictions. Oh, stop it.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2:

Stop it Anyway so I need a whole overtime to get there.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, that overtime, that overtime, just I'm not going to sleep well with that overtime that's going to be another nightmare.

Speaker 2:

You know the problem is. The problem is like, and I'll just have to say it the problem is we have a crappy rule. Yeah, we have a crappy rule we have. First of all, I think I was one of like 100 million Americans that didn't know the rule changed. Oh exactly, I believe I was talking to you personally and I was, and I text you and I first said to you it's like no, I really didn't change. I don't remember anything like that. I had to Google that and I'm like, oh crap, just see the rule that they both get the ball, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And it was funny because we were sitting there watching and my dad goes wait a minute, so both of them get the ball. I'm like no fucking, if they get the touchdown it's over. And that's what I said. She go wait a minute. Did the rules change? I was like, when did this happen?

Speaker 2:

And then, immediately immediately after, we actually came to the conclusion that the rules did change and we immediately went to why are the Niners taking the ball?

Speaker 1:

Yep Exactly.

Speaker 2:

And, man, I know you've been avoiding sports the whole week, so I'm sure you have not watched any NFL films.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

So I'm just going to say it doesn't really shed in a good light what your coach, kyle Shanahan, and his knowledge of the rules so he, I think, knew the rules. Okay, why he held the ball anyways, beyond me. Absolutely they not know the rules and they must have never practiced it, because you got, you got your full back Kyle and I can't pronounce his last name to save his life. You got Kyle right there and he's from Harvard and he looked at the team and he's like do you know that, even if he scored touchdown, kansas City gets the ball back? Like you could tell the confusion on the sideline yeah, because Kansas City was shocked at that too, Because you see the face.

Speaker 1:

they were like wait what you guys want, the ball Okay.

Speaker 2:

That gives us control of the game. Kansas City thought it was a Christmas gift, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And they took full advantage. You know it's funny because you said I've been a boy sports. I have been. It was so funny because you know the Knights played on Monday and you know I'm a huge Knights fan Absolutely. I didn't even want to watch that because I was afraid that we'd talk about the Super Bowl. That's, that is how bad. I did not want to hear about it. I did not even watch the Knights game because I was like I don't even want to hear if they talk about the game yesterday because of course it was in town and I was like no, no, I don't even want to hear a word about the Super Bowl, I'm not ready.

Speaker 2:

It's so weird. In the casino it was. I don't know about the Rango, but in the casino at Santa Fe it was completely 70, 30, 75, 25, niner fans, everything else yes. The money did not go that way.

Speaker 1:

It was the same. It was the same. It was mostly all Niner fans in the house and, yeah, it was not a happy time, so there was a lot of drinking involved, absolutely so what do you?

Speaker 2:

so what do you think was the key place other than the buckle and overtime and the coin toss, and we'll never forget standing hand for that.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to tell you right now because as soon as it happened I had nothing but flashbacks, was the punt when we talked about it last week. Remember when we talked about it last week?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that one hurt.

Speaker 1:

I saw that and I went no, not again. Not again, not this again. That one hurt. Oh, just that, that muff punt. And it wasn't. It wasn't the punt, returners fault the guy. He's trying to tell him get out of way. It goes off his foot. He's got no choice, but he just needs to fall on the ball. Why is he trying to pick it up?

Speaker 2:

Got a guy trying to get cute.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but yeah, at first I was wondering why the hell he fielded it in first place. Then they show the slow motion Like, oh Jesus Christ, it went up the guy's leg. No wonder he tried to field the punt.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I'm not a fan trying to field the punt. Let's have all this bounce it. Yeah, no you just got to fall on at that point.

Speaker 1:

Take your lick the wounds. Lick the wounds, it's over 10 to 6.

Speaker 2:

You got the lead Momentum changes right there. Kansas City, one play later, scores the touchdown.

Speaker 1:

Yep, it's a whole brand new ball, and I believe you said it too when we talked. We talked at halftime. We should have been up like 20-something points.

Speaker 2:

I said it should have easily been 20 to 30.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, easily. I mean there was, we did not capitalize on touchdowns whatsoever.

Speaker 2:

The first half dominated the line of scrimmage and I just don't under like I really can't explain watching that first half and the score only be in 10 to 3. It felt like, it felt like in my heart that I should have been up 20 to 3.

Speaker 1:

No, I agree. And then I thought I was like we're not scoring enough because it's my homes. It is still Patrick my home. He's still a great quarterback. I mean, there's no doubting that other feelings involved Of course. I didn't so much holding going on, I'm not going to bring that, but it's still Patrick my home. You know he's going to make something happen. And having a 7 point lead at half and dominating like they did in the first half, I was like that's just not enough. That's not enough. There's no way we're going to get there. That's going to be the case.

Speaker 2:

Yep it's in the third quarter.

Speaker 1:

Why are?

Speaker 2:

we not running the ball? No?

Speaker 1:

yeah.

Speaker 2:

Just said it right there. The other team has Patrick, my home. You know you got to either do one or two things. Never give them the ball.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

Or get a big lead. Well, you already screwed up. They can't get the big lead, but you're still dominating the line.

Speaker 1:

That is how the Raiders beat them in that Christmas day game. They controlled the ball.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, Pierce never gonna allow.

Speaker 1:

Pierce was smart, he didn't throw a single pass in that second half he was like no, fuck you, I'm running the ball. You can stop me every time, but I'm gonna run the ball and I'm gonna drain the clock. I'm gonna use the clock because I already know it's past my homes. I'm just gonna use every second I can and hope to get first downs.

Speaker 2:

I mean, look at these calls, shock is third quarter, after, after the interception, by the way, so that also After the interception, a terrible pass to start off that third quarter. You gotta get let's call it 15 yards, because movie he's not that consistent. No, you have 15 yards. Yeah, you keep the field goal. You're up 13 to 3. You're back up two scores. Yeah, shot on pass, penalty, shotgun, pass, shotgun, pass, punt the ball.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm, yeah, and we didn't pass. I mean party didn't play, bad Party actually was pretty, pretty good. It was it. You know, listen, that defense has played solid a whole playoffs. I mean they've been that way against, you know, I think, superior quarterbacks and, like Josh Allen, lamar Jackson. So for her pretty to play like he did. I thought he played pretty well. I don't think he lost the game for us.

Speaker 2:

No, this is not a Jimmy G situation where he lost his mind.

Speaker 1:

No, no, yeah, he wasn't. And there was what was that one? That where I, you, could have been wide open in the end zone had he kept running and he stopped.

Speaker 2:

There was a play where I, you, was opening in the end zone.

Speaker 1:

Oh that was that one where he.

Speaker 2:

So, but the problem was, chris Jones got, it was getting killed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's never saw. No, never saw him, never saw him. He didn't have time to really bow stepping in that throw. But there was, I believe there was I don't know if it was. It was the first half or the or was it the third quarter?

Speaker 2:

I Can't. And he stopped because he looks he turns around and kind of stopped.

Speaker 1:

Never saw the ball was in the air and he would have been wide because he had that. He had the safety beat. I know it's. Yeah, it was that seam around. Yeah, yep, but he was open for the touchdown there. But yeah, the one where there was two receivers wide open. But the pass rush gets there and eventually it was gonna get there. Chris Jones was not gonna be stopped the entire game. You. You just hope to contain them and keep it limited.

Speaker 2:

We know how. You know how you stop a good pass rush. Run the ball, yeah, run the ball.

Speaker 1:

Even a note. He's running the ball to the right side. I'm like that's your weak side, that's, that's, that's where they have the advantage. Why, why are you running it that way? I?

Speaker 2:

mean the calf ready. My calf ready was easily MVP of the game.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

I, I Boggles my mind. People like Shannon hanging on them like the greatest coaches, build Bella check. But like even in those early Go Bella check years, if playing those Colts he's gonna run the ball 40 times and man is not gonna get the ball. Yeah, that's why I love it.

Speaker 1:

I love it when they compare Brady and Mahomes like listen, brady didn't have to throw the ball 40 times. Brady was like run my defense gonna step up, not the first decade of the second decade they did when they change.

Speaker 2:

When they started changing the rules, bella check and put the script and make sure that Brady had weapons, because it is that first decade they were dominant was a different football game than it is now.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, by far. Because no? And if, if you had the rules in place that they are now for that first Super Bowl, they won against the Rams. There's no way they win that game, because that's all they did was put the receivers on their ass.

Speaker 2:

They, they, just a few. Remember that Super Bowl? They just mugged, yeah, the Ramsey receivers, the whole game, the whole game.

Speaker 1:

They were like Holding calls. Oh yeah, that one. That was all you were. That was well beyond it. The you know the five yard cushion there. They're just putting them right on their ass and in in today's game. You're not gonna get away with it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, not at all. They would call penalty on the every time man. The Eagles Eagles lost the Super Bowl once because we can one of their guys gotten here a wide Receiver. So now was enough for a holding call, oh yeah. It's, it's, it's and only bring up the bangles Super Bowl where they want, let's not bring that one up because, yeah, yeah, apparently they held every play in the goal line and they gave the Ram the first down. It felt like they gave the ramp a first down and goal on the one every single time. I'm sure I know I'm exaggerating a little bit out there, like if you remember those Super Bowls.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. No, it's a different ball, but yeah, the first, the first half, yeah, you could run the ball, play D Nowadays you. It's hard to play defense. It's hard to play defense, but yeah, I think.

Speaker 2:

But the miners were and they were running the football and that third quarter and I'm focusing on third quarter to the fourth Core, I felt like they started getting back to them and Paul's Sunday's corn points again. Yep, we'll figure the third quarter like. There's no way saying it, just that he out thought himself too times. I'll tell himself the third quarter and he out thought himself on the coin toss.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

And those guys lost on the game.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, those, those decisions there a lot, though, just those two, two things. Just lost the game because we did not Party was fine. Yep.

Speaker 2:

I thought pretty played it. I thought pretty played an above average to a good thing. You can even call it a great game, yeah no, I know there's a but above average game.

Speaker 1:

It was above average game.

Speaker 2:

Going against that bagnola's defense, where the spagnolla's defense is predicated on. We're gonna kill the quarterback and they're not gonna be able to pass it on us. I and Purdy was still able to pass it on them.

Speaker 1:

No. I thought, I thought yeah.

Speaker 2:

Purdy, because the thing, the difference is, purdy was still completing passes for two people in his face. The second half, compared to Jimmy D in the second half, was getting no pass. Ross had overthrown his receivers by 10 yards.

Speaker 1:

No, I agree with it, I agree with it and that's. That was the big thing. Going into it. I was like man, this is completely flip flop from the first Super Bowl, because we in the first Super Bowl, the Niners had the defense, the Chiefs had the high powered offense and when, all of a sudden, we had the lead, I was like just run the ball and it was pass after pass after pass, because we're at what?

Speaker 2:

20 to 10 in the fourth quarter and lost the game and they put the. They put the ball in Jimmy G's hands. He was by far the weakest person on that team and any any two Niners fan knew it then. The rest of the world caught up to it a few years later, but like any Niners fan knew it then. Yeah, yeah, why are we putting the ball in Jimmy G's hands? Because Jimmy.

Speaker 1:

Jimmy was never after that knee in the injury. Jimmy was never the same. His throws were in that first year when he was with the with the Niners right, that first, like half a year, he was throwing dimes all over the field. It almost felt like you had knee injury and then he was scared to step into a throw.

Speaker 2:

I think he was just. You know. He said Nick Foles, he said he had the one year.

Speaker 1:

That's true, it could be, it could be it, but he had the five game.

Speaker 2:

he had the five game win the streak with the Niners and he was crowned the new King of San Francisco and he started playing. Well, yeah, I know about the knee injury, which is weird that he had a knee injury, because I remember that hit. It was a hit out of bounds and he felt it at the ground. He like it's something like tweak the knee and look like you tweak the knee and then both boomies out for the year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he hyper extended and pulled all the fucking ligament. He pulled the. Uh, what was the ACL in it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then like I mean even watching them then now again, and then like listen to all the Niners fans and now watching them in Las Vegas, he's, he's got happy feet over close. Like I don't see what they seem.

Speaker 1:

No, I listen, I think he's a, I think he's a smart quarterback. I just don't think he's. He's one of those guys that he's almost um trying to think who's the one that's doing NBC now, jason Garrett, that's who I feel like he's like is he smart because he just had a policy violation? Well, that, that whole thing that was prescribed, that that's that it wasn't like substance abuse like some guys. But that one, that one that came out it was, it was a prescribed medication while he was rehabbing, but he didn't get approval from somebody and that's why the suspension came down.

Speaker 2:

So you don't know what you put in your body.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's prescribed by your team doctor, but the problem is they didn't file. They didn't file it with somebody that that had to approve it first.

Speaker 2:

All right, all right, I love him to benefit at that. I mean, his latest career is now over, but yeah, he's right, but that was, it was over.

Speaker 1:

It was over anyway. There was no way they were bringing him back, not as a not at that price.

Speaker 2:

He was making he was doodle bank. Way too much money but I do like the.

Speaker 1:

Raiders team going into next season, though I think the Raiders team is going to. I think Pierce is a good coach.

Speaker 2:

Oh, make a break. Oh, I mean I think the jury's out on Pierce first, first year that he's going to be over the team. Not a big fan of who they sign at GM, uh, to Desco, because he did a wonderful job with the Chargers, especially having all that depth on the Chargers. Who who? I'll never get on that team again. Yeah, that's the game that team can draft receivers.

Speaker 1:

That's for fucking sure. That draft that I mean they got Mike Williams is solid, but he can't stay healthy Get down solid can't stay healthy. And then the most they're the two highest paid receivers on the league.

Speaker 2:

So we're going to then take that GM and move into Las Vegas?

Speaker 1:

No, yeah, exactly, that makes no sense. Oh, speaking of which because I know this has been a hot topic is was it a need for Kansas city coming off the Superbowl in now? Here's my question to you, and this is a curious question. It's a day's day and age with the way the game is played now. Do you feel like now that the corners and overpaid position Because you got to think about it now the the great teams, where San Francisco's weak point is the corner?

Speaker 2:

Baltimore's weak point is the corner. Yes and no. Yeah, it depends what your team is made up. Okay, because if you can get to the quarterback. You don't need corners. Well, here's my, here's, my, here's my, that's my here's. That's great question. Would you rather pay a corner?

Speaker 1:

or an edge rusher, edge rusher. I don't want to dominate the line of square-match.

Speaker 2:

Like look, I mean in the end you still, they had Chris Jones, yeah, so they can dominate the line. I mean Snead was a luxury Now the thing is we don't know how long Chris Jones is going to stay on Kansas City Exactly. He's going to want to get paid too.

Speaker 1:

Well, he's made it very clear he wants to get paid.

Speaker 2:

So that's neat. Did you hear the thing that Snead came out with on the what's?

Speaker 1:

her name, adam's show, where she she was like, well, okay, what do you, what do you have to say to the chiefs about this upcoming contract? And he said pay me. And I'm like, well, that's what I'm going to say, that. And but Snead had a terrible super bowl. I mean he had a terrible super bowl. I mean he had a terrible super bowl, I mean he had a terrible super bowl. And. But Snead had a terrible super bowl. I mean, he didn't play exceptionally well in that super bowl.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he had an awesome regular season. Yeah, you can't, like you can't judge it by one game on any aspect, like I got to see multiple games. But you, you can. You can because he had a bad super bowl not paying.

Speaker 1:

But you know how that works. You know it's always what you've done for me. Lately it's, it's, that's the league. What have you done for?

Speaker 2:

me now. Well then, you know what Then you can be, you know what you can do. Then Blow up your entire plan and you can beat a New York. I told you I know, but like, the plan was to rebuild the damn team after three years. Then the flukes of all fluke seasons, they backdoor, damn playoffs 97 at no point, and I had to hear jokes from you. Still, even when the Giants made the playoffs, I had to hear jokes from all you Reminding me that the Giants are a bad team. Me, being a New York Homer not I put my blinders on. I'm like they made the playoffs and want to play off game. I think they're good. Maybe they take a slight step back. No, they were crappy two years ago and then on a very weak NFC and they were crappy. And they were crappy last year. And that's the real team.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So if you, want to overreact because you had a playoffs, or you want to overreact because guy has one back game and yes, 123 million people saw that the guy had one back game. They overreact and you can beat a New York Giants in the New York.

Speaker 1:

Giants that's what I'm saying is because you have Chris Jones wanting to get paid and you have Steve to get paid, you got to go with Chris Jones, right? I'm not okay with that one.

Speaker 2:

I'm picking Jones over.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. I mean, you got to get. You got to get Jones. Maybe, like yeah, we'll find another young corner.

Speaker 2:

Just finding. Yeah, you got to find a young corner in the Duffy.

Speaker 1:

They make Duffy is a good solid corner. He's just not. He doesn't play the same games need plays because he's more that up in your face. Jam the receiver gets you off your route kind of guy. And make Duffy's that I'm going to coverage corner kind of Dion Sanders role where I'm going to be all over you. But I'm not that jam you at the line guy, because Dion was never that jam you got. And jam you at the line guy he was always that I'm going to be all over your ass kind of shadow guy.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, look, in the end you want to go after the quarterback. If you can disrupt the quarterback, your linebackers, your corners don't have to be first round picks, second round picks. You just you've got to cause chaos on the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1:

And that's my another point, because like make Duffy would sneak make. Duffy is the one, the one they always designated to pass rush when they did a blitz with what's banged on, because he was a good blitzer at corner. He disguised everywhere. He was very good at it. I think he's more valuable than state is. I think you got it. Here's the thing.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to Question what the teeth are going to do, because they let that Tyree Kill go and everybody is number one or two wide receiver in the lead. I mean they could tool, look like a pro ball quarterback, yeah yeah. And so it's not like Tyree Kill is bad and they let them go to make sure my homes was paid and they've won two Super Bowl since then.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you think they three Pete.

Speaker 2:

Nobody's done it.

Speaker 1:

Nobody's done it. They got my homes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right now, as the way that team is constituted. Right now they repeat, I think they're gonna be the first.

Speaker 1:

I think they gotta keep Taylor Swift around. She makes Roger Goodell a lot of money.

Speaker 2:

I said something to a Paris fan. She's part of my management staff. I sent something to a Paris fan and I said to like this, the Taylor Swift has one and seen more Super Bowls than you have.

Speaker 1:

Oh that's cold, man, that's so cold. That's what the Bears need to hope for. They need to hope for like a Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift breakup and like, hey, you need to go get Cole committing that. Like, hey, Cole, you need to call her. They can't deny us they can't deny us if we got Taylor Swift on our side.

Speaker 2:

That would happen, and the Bears with Windows Super Bowl. I'm committed that they're gonna reverse my position as ADNFL's Rates.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely. If that was ever happened, I'd be, like yeah, we're fucking done here, Would solely just focus on hockey.

Speaker 2:

The sleeper team will be the Packers.

Speaker 1:

I like the Packers man. That team looks good man. I don't know why Aaron Rodgers wanted out of there. They finally fulfilled and gave him a bunch of weapons and he left.

Speaker 2:

The sleepers and see they have a bunch of weapons. Jordan Love a third franchise quarterback in a row. Hey, those guys are like.

Speaker 1:

They're like Pittsburgh, man. Pittsburgh does great at like drafting receivers, green Bay does great at drafting quarterbacks. I just don't know how that works, man, it's odd.

Speaker 2:

When you bring up Pittsburgh, it's weird, and I hope Jimmy's not listening to this. If you bring up Pittsburgh, it's weird. They draft awesome wide receivers but they always find the Divas yes.

Speaker 1:

Yes, they do.

Speaker 2:

It's like Pittsburgh to the world, to the United States, this whole song stability team and when you really deep dive the last five or six years, there's drama everywhere with that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that team's got more drama.

Speaker 2:

They're one of the burning Canada to the ground.

Speaker 1:

Every skill position player like LeVion Bell. He was a big giant diva, I mean they just they find them Divas. They do find the Divas, that's. Yeah, you're right on that one. They're talented, but they're Divas.

Speaker 2:

And you pick games, go ahead and you know, screw the touchdown, I'm not going to block, you know, if you put yourself.

Speaker 1:

So, that being said, okay, we know you don't agree with the Super Bowl rules, but all right, I got to ask you who is your Super Bowl pick for next year. Give me one team from each conference. Give me one team from each conference.

Speaker 2:

Well, look, I'm going to. How do you not Like look the team's soft this year? Let's be honest here. Their offense is terrible. They won the Super Bowl Like I'll never bet against my homes. Now he says he is the best quarterback. He's going to go down as the best quarterback I've ever seen in my life. Right now I think that's been manning, but the way my home's is going to go down the best quarterback I've seen in the NFC. You know I'm on Packers, okay, okay, because they the one thing that they were the greatest weakness was their defense and their kicker. All right, well, I love that. I love the article. Like, hey, what happens when your kicker always comes out and the coach in Floreco says I just play, I just pray? Oh, that's a great strategy right there, you know he's not on the team.

Speaker 1:

And it's so bad because you're like you know he's out there when he's skating going. I wish I had your brother.

Speaker 2:

He's like I need to sign your brother.

Speaker 1:

Can we trade brothers? Just give me, give me, give me his older brother. His older brother is way better.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I'll go with Packers Niners are going to start having turmoil. The Cowboys are the Cowboys. So if I go 13 and four and losing the first round, see.

Speaker 1:

I think I'm going to go with Baltimore next season. I think I think now that, with everything that will happen this season, I think Lamar Jackson is going to be on a mission and listen for everything. Like Lamar Jackson to me ever since he gave the Heisman speech. I've not been a Lamar Jackson fan, but I'll tell you what he is. He's probably been a very he's. He's been a huge hard worker. I mean, he has improved his game so much. I think he's finally going to get it over that hump. I got to go. I got to go with my Niners for one last year because I think after the next year I think the Salar Cap just kind of destroys that team, because after that, after next year, the Salar Cap gets to be too much and they're going to have to make decisions and they're just not going to be as good.

Speaker 2:

So I think they got one more year at this run. The Niners have to do it next year. This is their year. The issue is, I think, that defense started showing cracks.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's, oh let's not even bring up. Greenlaw gets pulled, tears his Achilles running onto the field and that's when. Kelsey goes nuts after that. How do we not bring that up? I forgot all about it. I wanted to bring it up, but I totally forgot about it.

Speaker 2:

How do we get it, Because they were dominating the Holmes. The Holmes wasn't able to do anything. The Chief's offense wasn't able to do anything.

Speaker 1:

Greenlaw shut Kelsey down and pure, pure Niners fashion.

Speaker 2:

As you remember, I'm a New Jersey, new York, nuts. All you know. Giant Stadium and the 18 injuries the Niners have Yep, normal contact injury, torn Achilles. Did they come out with Tunk Achilles?

Speaker 1:

He just had surgery. Yeah, he's going to be in the play. Tunk Achilles out for a little bit of net season, yeah Cause. Yeah, he's not going to make it, but if it's a Tunk Achilles, you'll be lucky to have him back by the last four games him next year, if you're lucky.

Speaker 2:

It's a nine to 12 month injury, so nine puts it in November. I mean and if he comes back in November, he's probably not a hundred percent. He might miss the whole net season and that's one of the, that's one of the high energy. But those crazy nuts in the front seven, you want those high energy potty goes a little bit overboard when he does do and I think that affected Fred and it affected two people, because I think that affected Fred Warner a lot.

Speaker 1:

Did you see the reaction of Fred Warner when he went down?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was. He puts his hands on his helmet going you've got to be kidding me.

Speaker 1:

No, freaking way that this just happened.

Speaker 2:

He slams his helmet down as they're taking to the field and he just he could see him on the sideline.

Speaker 1:

And he, just, like the whole game plan, just went out the window and he still kind of kept my homes in check. But if you look at it, before the green law injury, kelsey had one catch, I believe, for three yards, and after that that's where he goes off for like six catches for 90. Yep.

Speaker 2:

I mean my home's, just such on a different level, Like he's. He's on God tier.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That. I think he just finds it out anyway, Like you can't. This is impossible. Stop the chiefs for four quarters.

Speaker 1:

No, that's what I said. Yeah, and that was my point. When we had a seven point lead in the half, I'm like we should be up 17. And I'd feel a little bit better because that's a big deficit. We should. We could have been even more than more than the 17, I thought, because we dominated the first half, but to only be up a touchdown, I was like, yeah, still.

Speaker 2:

Like what did he do for a low management in San Francisco? I think he's got the freaking flip chop to ruin Because still run the calf free to death week one, week two, week three, week four, fourth quarter, up by 28. No, we got to feed the calf. Three, five more carries and now the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1:

we're going to do low management, do load management, and it was funny, it was well. Who did I? I think I brought it up on last week where it was that the key to the game was run my calf free into the ground and when he can't run anymore, put Debo back there and run Debo into the ground. Yeah, and you walk and you guess what? You run with a fucking Super Bowl ring.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now Debo was getting dinged up pretty bad. He was in and out, yeah, I think that played a huge course.

Speaker 1:

I don't he was not a hundred percent, you could tell it. I know he had a hamstring and a shoulder injury. I, I, you, I, you was, was open on several plays. But, like, said the, on that second half, where he was getting open, it was the past rush was starting to get there. Yeah, like you weren't going to stop that defensive line for the whole, you know, for the whole game. There was no way and so there was a lot of missed opportunities. We talked about that, but yeah, that I think the green law injury was huge.

Speaker 2:

There's another question when?

Speaker 1:

was Kittle, oh he. They just didn't run him. I didn't know what they were. I was like get Kittle the ball that's. I mean God. And when they finally did, big play start to happen. But they didn't do it enough. No-transcript.

Speaker 2:

Kiddle got Kiddle. Kiddle got small real quick. He was hurting too. He went out in the overtime right or the fourth quarter with a shoulder injury. Well, he had that, I know.

Speaker 1:

He had a foot injury too that he was been plagued with throughout the whole playoff. So I know that was a, that was a huge thing, but you know he wasn't going to miss that game. George Kiddles, a gamer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he didn't know, he can't get good, but he was ineffective and I think the chiefs knew it going into the second half.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that he wasn't out. Yeah, he wasn't good, he wasn't the same guy. I agree with you there. I agree with you there.

Speaker 2:

But, but yeah, I think, the Niners. The issue is going to be who they're going to have coaching that defense. Is he going to, is he going to get along with Shanahan? You obviously saw going into that, into the playoff. And I, everyone knows why I picked the chiefs, because I thought that defense was suspect. Now, go figure. So I got all my predictions why I couldn't have called the game any worse.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I backdoor.

Speaker 2:

It to everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it was a rough super.

Speaker 2:

I mean the Niners was the one first half playing ball control and the Niners were controlling the line of screens went off the script and all that. I don't. I think that defense, I don't think that defense is going to play like they did in that regular season. I think the Packers on their way up the Niners, I think, take a very slight step back Now, a slight step back in the NFC still means they're probably the number one C, because the NFC is just garbage after the Niners. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean that and that was my whole theory. Was I get it? I think the defense takes a step back, but would Perti only being what he's? Only played a year and a half of football? I?

Speaker 2:

think he gets a little bit better, but your coach will just go away from the game plan.

Speaker 1:

That's. That's not how I push out of here, and that's that's. That's a soft spot, and you know how I feel about Shani because you know I like he's blown every friggin big game he's been in.

Speaker 2:

You know me, I'll point the finger in a heartbeat in these sports things I like. I like sports drama. I there's like I don't see. Yeah, I know you don't play. A year and a half Perti won that game. Yeah, perti didn't do anything to lose that game.

Speaker 1:

Nope.

Speaker 2:

So like I don't know how much better Perti's going to be, because I thought Perti played a pretty damn good game. The only way you get the excellent category is the Patrick Mahomes category, which is like you go on God mode. Yeah, so party didn't have God mode in the way to set the 49ers are set up. He's not supposed to have God mode in them.

Speaker 1:

But does he get there? Do you think you could get there?

Speaker 2:

Uh, good question. Um, yes, yes, because, uh, because then I'll play into a year and a half. Perti's only played a year and a half and he did not seem frazzled by any situation.

Speaker 1:

Even when they went down, when the when Kansas City took the lead, he did not seem frazzled by that. He was like okay, time to go to work.

Speaker 2:

Well, I was reading some scouting reports with all one of my uh, one of my team members and basically Perti should have been rated as a second or third round quarterback. Now, now you're going back on hindsight, because everything was given about Perti was his agility. He can't run Well. I walked into Detroit Lions games.

Speaker 1:

He's like you can run pretty fine he ran, he ran and it was interesting that all of a sudden he didn't run in the super wide, because all perty didn't run. I'm like they were spying him.

Speaker 2:

They literally had a spy on him.

Speaker 1:

Like he was Lamar Jackson or something like that. I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 2:

And Tony Romo called that out in the game. It's like I can't believe that putting a spy on Perti. But you can believe it because what happened in that Lions game? He, freaking, torn him up with his legs.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad you brought up the whole Tony Romo thing. So the greatest bet now, whenever CBS has a Super Bowl and it's Jim Nats and Tony Romo bet there'd be no score in the first quarter.

Speaker 2:

It's happened in two straight Super Bowls that they've covered. Oh my God, you're right Bet that. Bet, that is, there'd be no scoring in the first quarter because Jim Nats and Tony Romo.

Speaker 1:

For some reason, every time they cover a Super Bowl, there's never been a score in the first quarter.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that could be a Nevada game in.

Speaker 1:

You know that's got to be a profit somewhere. Damn it.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to talk to the higher ups about that one, oh man, but anyways, all right.

Speaker 1:

So side note, okay, we've talked about the Super Bowl, We've talked about our Super Bowl picks. Just a quick note you know we me and you both play fantasy football together. We're in a dynasty together. Have you looked at any of the prospects and draft picks coming out and have you started to evaluate what your team looks like?

Speaker 2:

I, after being in six leagues and playing for 18 weeks, and then the craziness at work, I told myself I was not going to do anything till it works.

Speaker 1:

Well, remember, we got the draft coming up right after the rate. We got the draft, come that, the rookie draft, coming up after the NFL draft.

Speaker 2:

I mean, if I start watching first, is the draft is at April 24th. I think I'll be fine. I know, you got what. You got.

Speaker 1:

The sixth pick in our league.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, because I traded picks like crazy, so I have Sean's pick.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, oh, so you got the last pick in the first round. I have Sean's pick, oh no no, no, Sean won the other league. I forget.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you won the league, but he was up there pretty high.

Speaker 1:

I know he had made a major comeback in that dynasty league with, you know, with H&M.

Speaker 2:

I'm picking fifth, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1:

Gorsy got your first round pick, so he's picking one and six.

Speaker 2:

Sean doesn't have a pick in the first round, if I'm correct? No, yeah, that's right, sean. Great job, dude. By the way, sean great job. You gave me a pick where I was dead in the water and you still. You still didn't amount to anything. No, no, no oh man and I know you listen to this podcast and I'm going to get some crap from it. You know what I'm going to call them.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to try to get them on next week to talk about sports. But I know you're a big sports fan. How much do you follow on hockey?

Speaker 2:

But you also know, hockey is like my least favorite sport. Because I can't say because I'm in Las Vegas, I'm not going to keep my mouth shut.

Speaker 1:

I know, I know you were like, you knew, like the Rangers stuff, but you don't know much about the hockey stuff. I mean look, you got two bullies in New.

Speaker 2:

York. You got two bullies you got Jonathan Quick and you got Igor on the Rangers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you guys should start getting so the Rangers.

Speaker 2:

When those two guys are going, the Rangers are the best team in hockey. Give us a Stanley Cup. This is our year. Problem is Rangers. That's actually the Rangers. They like to take games off and you can't keep letting the Canadians the other day. You can't keep letting the Canadians shoot the puck deck.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, with no defense. But no, I'm going to call you out on the show right now. I'm going to call you out Because I am doing fantasy hockey next year, are you?

Speaker 2:

in.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow. Oh yeah, because we're not doing anything. We're doing to do like dollar transactions.

Speaker 2:

Nothing major.

Speaker 1:

It's like and we're going to do like $50 buying dollar transaction and winner takes all.

Speaker 2:

Oh great, I'm going to be stuck like $200 in this thing If anybody knows me and my transactions.

Speaker 1:

But the best thing about it is it's so hilarious because the best time I had with it was I got Lee in it with last year. We didn't do it this year because of opening the new property. You know we just everybody was too busy To listen to. The guys try to pronounce names was hysterical, you know. You got William Nylander out there and Lee's got him on a steam. He says come on, nylander, come on. I'm like it's Nylander bro.

Speaker 2:

And he goes oh, oh, tell me, we tried to do a like a live draft. Oh, we totally did dude, we totally did.

Speaker 1:

We did a live draft. It was hilarious.

Speaker 2:

So I'm looking at my go back to our dynasty, lee. I'm looking at there. Obviously we knew this from week one. I had a little work on the running back position. Then nothing has changed. No, no, no, william, but like why receiver on set. But then I got St Brown, I got Debo. Even if Debo gets hurt, eventually they're going to have a quarterback in Atlanta. So I got Drake, london, I got Brown, I got Downs from Indianapolis, so I got a deep forward there. Justin Fields is either going to have a real team in Chicago or they'll be created to a real team. I got a decent team running back. Running back, I need some work. I'm one. I feel like I got Pacheco. He's good. Yeah that's true, I got. I got mixing. He's not as good. You love that.

Speaker 1:

I think you drafted mixing and every league we were in together.

Speaker 2:

I was looking for volume and then and then everything in Cincinnati went to hell and then it was no volume anymore. Mixing up till this year, mixing, even when he has those bad games, is always volume, volume, volume, volume is going to get to 2025 carries a game. Yes, there could be a stat where it's 25 carries a game at 50 yards. But like, eventually he's going to get there. And RB to you know, you're trying to, you're trying to get it where. Just get me 10 points, 15 points somewhere around there. You're not looking for the big killshot where Pacheco is hoping to get the big killshot. But then Kansas City of all years, I started getting Kansas City people on a freaking fantasy football team. Only that's when the offense decided to freaking suck you got.

Speaker 1:

Rishi Rice.

Speaker 2:

No, no, I think I got Pacheco. I got Pacheco. I actually picked up McCarran first and then I trade it with I want to say, kevin, oh that's right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think, pacheco is going to be a good hold. I think that's going to be a good one for the next couple years. So the hard part is with the running backs. Now in the situation with the running backs is just so bare. I mean, rookie running backs aren't doing much because they're not getting enough carries, because everything's a committee now.

Speaker 2:

Well, I got running backs on my team. It's just going to depend like it's Hubbard, what's it? What's his role going to look like if he's even being on the team? Aj Dillon, aj Dillon, I think I just like every time I started him, he's got two points every time I've got to play. Have you noticed, aj?

Speaker 1:

Dillon didn't really even play in the. You know he didn't play late now that season.

Speaker 2:

Well, aaron Jones is the better running back.

Speaker 1:

I thought it'd be two full, but when Jordan Love just took on fire, Even when they brought in like a backup, it was always I forget who it was. It was the other guy. It wasn't even AJ Dillon.

Speaker 2:

Well, I know I didn't play him because I was playing Pacheco and mixing and crazy and then I would sneak in Hubbard. Oh, I got Swift on my team.

Speaker 1:

I forgot all about him because he was a ball. He's a pre-agent too. Yeah, you got to see where he lands.

Speaker 2:

And the Eagles and yeah, just they never. The Eagles never used them half the time, though they the greatest strength was running in the football, so they would just throw the ball.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, it was great because the first like was it the first five games where he was like lights out, he was doing great because he was getting the ball and then they went away from it. I was like whoa what?

Speaker 2:

happened here. I just want you to know I in that Swift deal I got the. I got Sean's pick and Swift on that deal.

Speaker 1:

It was pretty good.

Speaker 2:

Who'd you give? Up again and I guarantee you I don't know, because I guarantee Sean doesn't know, because I think they only play like two games. That's hilarious. Actually, the trades, other than the mixing trade, was pretty bad, but other than that I was with Actually wasn't too bad because I was with Gorsy. I think I that's the one with Gorsy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was bad up to when Herbert got hurt. And when Herbert got her Gorsy team went with the hell.

Speaker 1:

If you notice, if you look at Gorsy team, I think I think half his team was on IR at the end of the year.

Speaker 2:

Well, I did poke fun at Gorsy, when I saw you was going with the Aaron Rodgers. Oh yeah, we're going to. We're going to go, try to win the Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers and four players. Man, oh yeah. But it's gonna be good I know.

Speaker 1:

I know a lot of guys asked me to do a weekly league next year where we we have a small a budget where we pick our teams.

Speaker 2:

I know you in on that one. Yeah, I knew it, I knew you can't. Kevin did the same thing.

Speaker 1:

I said hey, we might do a weekly league. I mean, I was like, you didn't even tell me, though you, what the terms are.

Speaker 2:

You guys, I don't care, I mean, just let me know how much. I start saving up now.

Speaker 1:

That's exactly what I do I start, put away from my fantasy, my fantasy sports budget right now.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, we'll get that one going next week. That'll make, that'll make material for the show.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I am going to try and and and Lens League. I am going to try to limit a little bit more of the transactions because that's two years in a row. I finished in ninth at eight. He gets you in the playoffs and I finished right there in number nine.

Speaker 1:

Hardest part about Lens League is we're doing a 12 team league and there's not much that we have such a long bench. There's not a whole lot to grab out there anymore. That's the hard one.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I found everybody landed on the IR. I mean let's just go, let's just go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, that's right. Yeah, you did find it. Yeah, and that's what killed Dobbins?

Speaker 2:

week one for ATL Week one.

Speaker 1:

I know I had a few leagues too. I'll tell you what, though I had the most dominant team going into that playoffs and then, all of a sudden, I was like, ok, two of my starting receivers are hurt. I got a starting running back hurt. I'm screwed. And I had hurts is my quarterback, and that was on their down slide where they were playing like garbage, and I'm like I'm done, I'm so done.

Speaker 2:

I got bailed out. Because, kevin, I got bailed out so much. My highlight on that that Lens League is only week 14, because every other week sucks for me. Kevin runs his mouth I want, I want a dinner at Santa Fe and a dinner at the Ringo and I'll say you're on, and I can get out of the dinner at the Ringo. And not only do I get out of their dinner at the Ringo, but I get high score right at the end. I haven't accomplished a goddamn thing All season. High score limits, the limits, the damage right there at the end I'm like great. I got my team playing well by week 14. What's my record? Five and nine.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it was so fun because everybody's like how much you owe it, linsley, you didn't make the money. I'm like, oh, nothing we had set. We had like six high scores, so we actually made money. Yeah, you kid that I was, I was.

Speaker 2:

You were in the money. You were in the money like we can.

Speaker 1:

I was in the money week eight. I was like I got this. Oh it's too good. But all right, man, I don't want to take up too much of your time. We've been talking for a minute, so I appreciate you joining the show, brother.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, anytime man.

Speaker 1:

So all right guys. So, hey, thanks for joining the show, nicky B, and we'll talk to you guys next week. We'll go over some fantasy football and we'll go over some hockey news going on. All right, all right guys. Everybody have a great one, have a great weekend. We'll see you next time on the big guys.

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